So, I read “Love Wins” by Rob Bell tonight (yes, the whole book, cover to cover – I speed read). Here’s what I posted to facebook real quick when I got home – I may have more thoughts about it after I’ve slept on it.

Speed-reading does have its advantages but disadvantages too… it’s not a book meant to be digested in two hours; rather it’s meant to be eaten in small bites, carefully considered, questioned, poked at, digested. But I was able to form a fairly considered opinion.

“Much ado about… well… a little.” I can’t say much ado about nothing, because some of Bell’s proposals are well beyond the pale of orthodoxy. I think I can agree with the core of what he’s saying – which amounts to, “For God SO loved the world…” but I’m not so sure I can agree with his conclusions.

That said, I’m not sure that I can’t agree, either. Which is why the book should be eaten in small bites… I took too big of a bite, and what he was proposing was too much to swallow without carefully chewing it first.

Bell has a lot to say about heaven that I agree with – mainly that it’s not a “place we go off to when we die”, nor is it the time and place in which we *start* relating to God intimately. We play a tremendous role in bringing the future into now.

He has a lot to say about hell that I’d been considering lately – mainly that perhaps hell is less a “place other people go off to when they die” and more something that we create and sustain, ourselves… starting now and going forth into eternity.

He made some REALLY interesting points about what eternity is and how the word is used in the Greek, which I’ll be looking into more.

What needs careful evaluation and consideration is Bell’s proposal that this life may not be “it” and that hell is perhaps not eternal punishment, but is in and of itself designed to bring people to redemption… that even after this death… 100… 1000… 100000 years later the most hardened heart might grow weary of the hell they created for themselves, and choose Christ instead.

That certainly flies in the face of … well, of everything. Bell brings out quite a few Scriptures to support his position, which is interesting because several critics said in their reviews, “he doesn’t base the book on Scripture and doesn’t even refer to the Bible.” I certainly didn’t find that to be the case. That said, without serious time to study out what he’s saying, look up cross-references, and really dig into it, I’m not prepared to agree with his position. Nor am I prepared to wholly reject it.

At this point I’m just saying, “Hmmm. That’s interesting.”

I didn’t buy the book, but I might, and if I do, I’ll really dissect it.
Bottom line is this, though… I can’t call what Bell is promoting in his book “orthodoxy” … but I definitely wouldn’t and couldn’t call it “heresy”, nor would I label it as universalism. Not at ALL.
 

If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you. John 15:7

 

I just can’t get past this word, “abide“. I feel like I’ve only scratched the surface… been here for a couple of weeks… turning that word over and over and over in my mind. In fact, I’ve gotten to the point a couple of times in writing this where I just…had….to….stop. Just stop, and rest in the truth of, ‘What does it mean “to abide“?’

I think the biggest question I had to ask myself was this: What is the difference between living somewhere and abiding somewhere? Is it possible to be alive in Christ but not to abide in Him?

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“If you abide in Me, and My words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.” John 15:7 ESV

As I said in yesterday’s post, I am absolutely captivated by this verse right now. The implications are staggering, and yet I believe we misunderstand and misapply what Jesus said. We “ask amiss”, and do not realize the fullness of abiding. Jesus phrased this as an “If…then” statement: IF you abide in me and IF my words abide in you, THEN ask, and it will be done.

“Abide in Me”, Jesus said. Over and over again, in fact:

2 Every branch in me 4Abide in me, and I in you. …unless it abides in the vine… you abide in me. 5 Whoever abides in me and I in him6 If anyone does not abide in me7 If you abide in me, and my words abide in you8Abide in my love. 10 you will abide in my love… abide in his love.
Ten verses, 13 mentions. Think it’s an important concept? Think He wanted to hammer the point home?
Let’s focus first upon the subject of this phrase: you. We often quote the phrase, “it’s not all about you” – but biblically speaking, sometimes it is.
The verb form of “abide” in this sentence implies that the action is dependent upon you. It reflects the “if” in this statement. This is a decision you make – no one (not even God) can make it for you. God does not make you abide in Him; this is a conscious choice: either you do, or you don’t.  Without your action, there is no action… no abiding.
So what is abiding? men? in the Greek:
  • to remain, abide
    • in reference to place
  • to sojourn, tarry
  • not to depart
    • to continue to be present
    • to be held, kept, continually
    • in reference to time
    • to continue to be, not to perish, to last, endure
    • of persons, to survive, live
    • in reference to state or condition
  • to remain as one, not to become another or different
  • to wait for, await one
So many Scriptures come to mind when I look at that list – Luke 24:49 (Tarry in Jerusalem)… John 17:23 (I in them and you in me, that they may become perfectly one)… John 1:33 (‘He on whom you see the Spirit descend and remain, this is he who baptizes with the Holy Spirit.’)… John 8:35 (the son remains forever.)… 2 Tim 2:12 (if we endure, we will also reign with him) …Psalm 130:5 (Wait for the LORD; be strong, and let your heart take courage; wait for the LORD!)… and so many more.
To abide… to live in, to be alive in…
I had a really awesome revelation one day that John 14 leads to John 15. Now, that doesn’t sound very revelatory until you stop and think about what Jesus was saying there.
“Let not your hearts be troubled. Believe in God; believe also in me. In my Father’s house are many rooms. If it were not so, would I have told you that I go to prepare a place for you? And if I go and prepare a place for you, I will come again and will take you to myself, that where I am you may be also. And you know the way to where I am going.”
Thomas said to him, “Lord, we do not know where you are going. How can we know the way?” Jesus said to him, “I am the way, and the truth, and the life. No one comes to the Father except through me.
Think about it – how many times have you heard John 14: 6 preached as something available to us currently – and John 14:1-4 preached as something that’s not available until the return of Christ?
Can I tell you something that maybe will blow your mind and upset your theological apple cart? He’s already returned. No, I’m not talking about THE return… but He HAS returned. Read the accounts of the crucifixion and resurrection very carefully and you’ll see – He died. He went to hell. He rose. He went to the Father. He returned and spent time with the disciples. He ascended to Heaven.
I would propose to you that He’s discussing that return. Why?  Where is Jesus? In Heaven, at the right hand of the Father (Col 3:1, Hebrews 10:12, 1 Peter 3:22, etc.) Where does the Bible say that believers are? Seated together in Heavenly places in Christ (Eph 2:6), in heaven awaiting His return (Phil 3:20)… what are we doing there? Abiding in Christ (John 14, 15, 16, 17; Psalm 91 anyone?)…
Those “rooms” Jesus talked about are dwelling places. Guess what the root word for “rooms” or “mansions” is? Yup, it’s men? , “to abide”… Abide in Me…
Abiding is a choice – this ties into my post the other day about Order & Chaos. You can live in a house but not be at home – and you can live in Christ without truly abiding in Him. Without making Him your Home. On earth… in you… as it is in Heaven. Just as our homes are supposed to be physical representations of heaven, so are our spirits, souls, and bodies – We in Him and He in us…
Abide in Me…

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“If you abide in me, and my words abide in you, ask whatever you wish, and it will be done for you.” John 15:7 ESV

I’ve been captivated by this verse all week – can’t get past it, beyond it, over it. The implications of “whatever” are astounding. When I read it in the Greek, I just about hollered (Greek tends to do that to me anyway, if you’ve hung out with me for any length of time you probably know that I really love word studies).

If you’re like me, the “natural” reaction to this is, “Yeah, well, I asked you for _____ and so where is it?” And yet Jesus didn’t phrase this as “Ask for what you want”, He made it a conditional statement.

Over the next few days I’m going to write a series of posts and pick this verse apart because I believe it’s foundational for truly LIVING the Christian life.

If…

ean in Greek is “if”. “If” is a conditional particle, making reference to time and to experience. It implies something future but not definite: one must go and do the action implied in the rest of the statement. IF this, THEN that.

Because “if” implies both time and experience, the word “abide” becomes an active pursuit involving both time and experience. Abiding cannot be an intellectual pursuit. Jesus cannot be someone we give mental assent to. We must spend time and we must experience Him in order to abide in Him.

More on “abide” later…

 

 

This move has taught me a lot about myself that I didn’t know… mostly in the areas of “how I’ve changed since receiving sozo ministry“.

My life has been marked by chaos. Some has been of my own making, and some has simply been thrust upon me. As an adult I’ve lived in over 25 different places – houses, apartments, homeless shelters. That means that I’ve moved – a lot.

You’d think I would have it down to a science by now… but this move is different.

It took me a while to figure out why. It’s because I’m different – as different as night and day, and as Kathi and Kay. It’s also because I have a very changed view of what “home” is.

It used to be that “home” was the place we lived, raised our kids, hung our hat, slept in at night. “Home” was the street address written in the upper left-hand corner of envelopes. “Home” was the place to go when everything “not-home” was done.

Back at the beginning of the year – maybe even before that – we had someone come to our church who taught about how to go into the third heaven. Most people had spectacular visions, but my husband’s was particularly notable and special. He not only had a vision and interaction with the Lord, he received several prophetic promises. One of these promises had to do with our new home. The door he accessed heaven through was a rounded-top door with windows in it.

At the time, he didn’t realize what he was looking at, it was just a neat door. Some time later, as we were looking at houses online and dreaming (thinking, “we could never really do this”), he found a house with the very same door. We went and looked at the house, and fell in love with it. We knew right from the start that this was the house God had for us, and we pursued it with tenacity and finally closed on it at the end of May (it wasn’t easy, either! I’ll write about the process another time.) We’re now fully moved in.

We both simultaneously got the revelation that “home” isn’t just a place to hang your hat – it’s meant to be a physical representation of heaven on earth. Yes, there’s plenty of other ways that “heaven on earth” is expressed (including within ourselves) – home is just one – but home is the place where we can invite anyone into, even strangers. What will they sense there? Is the presence of God and the expression of heaven so powerful and evident that simply being in your home leads them closer to Jesus?

Our new home is being designed as a place of power and a place of rest – a place of peace and a place of fire – a habitation of the Lord as well as a habitation for us. We want people to walk in and feel His presence, His peace, and His power in such dimension that lives are changed.

And so the reason I’ve been so out of sorts is because Heaven is an orderly place. Not in the way that we try to understand “order” (which tends to be all things carefully controlled so that nothing unexpected or unusual can happen)… Godly order tends to make it so that the unexpected and unusual have room to happen. Godly order opens the door for the supernatural, for heaven to truly invade earth.Without consciously realizing it, I’ve been responding to the lack of order in my life.

It’s hard to live in a godly order, home a physical expression of heaven, supernatural lifestyle when everything is in chaos around you and you can’t find your hairbrush, or the fish food, or you trip over a pile of stuff that you set aside “to deal with later”. Ken is really marveling at the change in me, because I’ve never cared before if dirty socks were tossed on the bedroom floor overnight, or stuff just set down anywhere and everywhere. Suddenly I do care – very much. I want godly order in our home. It’s hard to allow the supernatural in when you are internally in disorder, too. There is an element of control within creating or living in chaos, whether it’s internal or external. Although it’s the opposite of “human order”, it has the same effect. Order promotes the ability to flow with Holy Spirit – disorder leaves things (physically or spiritually) lying around for people to trip over. It inhibits the flow.

And so, slowly, all things are coming into order in my home just as they have, and continue to, come in my heart.

Is this making sense to anyone else out there? Anyone feeling the same heart-shift?

 

Kay Sharpe


I'm a laid-down lover of Jesus Christ. I write about my King and His Kingdom, the Bible, revival, healing, prophecy, faith, and more... plus I throw in recipes, tips, news and politics items, reviews, and all sorts of random things just for fun. Until recently, I was known as "Kathi"... but my name is now Kay. It's a good, God thing... :) The opinions expressed in this blog are mine and mine only - not necessarily shared by my husband, our church, my employers, or anyone else.

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